Subject: Re: getting ready to install tubulars for the first time Posted by: Al on July 25, 2006 at 20:00:39: In Reply to: getting ready to install tubulars for the first time posted by Logan on July 25, 2006 at 06:21:48:

Message: >Any special advice? You have to pre-stretch the tires on a "spare" rim ... You will swear that the tire is a 650c instead of 700c equivalent. Some/most people inflate the unglued tire ... I don't OTHER than to ensure that it is "good." After a day, you can glue-up and mount the tire. There is a LOT of debate as to how to actually glue up the tires ... I got to the point where I was putting a MINIMAL amount of glue on the rim AND none on the tire -- this is not necessarily recommended; but, you will find that if you inflate a NEW tire to 100PSI on a dry/spare rim, you will have a heck of a time rolling it off the rim when you push on it laterally ... but, I digress. However, if you inflate the tire when it is on the spare rim, you are stretching the casing MORE, and it will therefore require MORE glue. This is true if you USE and subsequently repair a tire ... remounting a tire requires MORE glue. In brief (this is ONE technique), then, put a THIN layer of glue on a clean rim's contact area. Put a thin layer of glue on the tire's tape (about 10PSI in the tire). Let it get tacky (about 15-to-30 minutes) ... add another THIN layer of glue onto the rim ... with a small amount of air in the tire ... roll it onto the rim. Inflate to about 60PSI and set it aside for a day before using. Some people use way too much glue ... the glue can/may act as an insulating barrier which will prevent heat dissipation.